tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post4779380442358659021..comments2024-03-18T04:36:26.547-04:00Comments on Paul Levinson's Infinite Regress: Lost 4.11: Unlocking LockePaul Levinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07609987407926836519noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-23820058312134286162008-05-15T14:49:00.000-04:002008-05-15T14:49:00.000-04:00REALLY don't agree that Richard is Locke's father....REALLY don't agree that Richard is Locke's father. He's certainly been interested in Locke's development for a long time, but I think Anthony Cooper really is Locke's dad. If only because the kidney - his dad needed it from a relative. And my memory is fuzzy, but didn't Locke get a paternity test to prove it?<BR/><BR/>I also really don't think the two Emilys are the same. One (Ben's Emily) had blonde hair, the other (Locke's) red. One (Ben's) died in childbirth, the other (Locke's) lived and was in the mental institution at some point.<BR/><BR/>That being said, it's definitely interesting how closely their stories parallel. I wonder if there was some sort of prophecy (think Harry Potter/Neville Longbottom) that could have been applied to both of them. Hence their similar backgrounds, hence Alpert's interest in both of them.<BR/><BR/>What remains to be seen is if their style will remain different. Locke we know (s3ep03 "Further Instructions") is not a killer/hunter. Probably why he wasn't supposed to pick the knife. And with the exception of Naomi, he doesn't kill people, even given the chance (Eddie in flashback, his Dad, Jack). He may be flawed, but he's a better guy than Ben...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-21152540736487797992008-05-13T15:06:00.000-04:002008-05-13T15:06:00.000-04:00I see. You're taking a strong stand based on the e...I see. You're taking a strong stand based on the evidence at hand. I can admire that :)Jessica Knapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13134277281082757857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-29338918830095875082008-05-10T00:51:00.000-04:002008-05-10T00:51:00.000-04:00Really, no kidding? :)Actually, I of course know a...Really, no kidding? :)<BR/><BR/>Actually, I of course know all about Locke's father - the guy who was killed by Sawyer - hard not to know about that, if you watched Season 3 etc.<BR/><BR/>But I'm suggesting that the man Sawyer killed - who conned Locke into giving him his kidney - was not really Locke's father. Perhaps some relative - which is why he needed Locke's kidney - but not Locke's father.<BR/><BR/>As for the two Emilys not being the same person - you seem pretty sure of that, too.<BR/><BR/>I prefer to keep watching Lost for a few more seasons, and see if this pans out...Paul Levinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07609987407926836519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-80135752081234322752008-05-10T00:42:00.000-04:002008-05-10T00:42:00.000-04:00You are dead wrong about Alpert being Locke's fath...You are dead wrong about Alpert being Locke's father. Locke's father has already been revealed and was killed by Sawyer in Season 3. Locke's mother is named Emily just like Ben's mother but they are not the smae person either. There are parallels in their lives but they are not related.LOST -- The Litigator's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15376542059990483486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-81453049126477688102008-05-09T19:12:00.000-04:002008-05-09T19:12:00.000-04:00Hey Jessica -I agree that we can't be 100% sure th...Hey Jessica -<BR/><BR/>I agree that we can't be 100% sure that Richard is Locke's father.<BR/><BR/>But - Emily's mother made a point of saying (to her daughter, and to us) that Emily's guy was twice her age. That seems like a pretty big red herring to just throw out there, for no reason.<BR/><BR/>Also - Emily's mother in the hospital had a slightly unfriendly look in her eyes which she looked at Richard...<BR/><BR/>By the way - to Dawn - while we're om the subject of Locke's birth - the second EW article you quote got it wrong, I'd say, about Locke and Ben being born on the same day. That's incompatible with Emily being their mother - and, also, Ben looks a little younger than Locke (though I suppose some kind of time travel could explain that)...<BR/><BR/>Wonderful show!Paul Levinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07609987407926836519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-28747402038784851852008-05-09T17:20:00.000-04:002008-05-09T17:20:00.000-04:00Wait ... I missed something. Richard Alpert is for...Wait ... I missed something. Richard Alpert is for sure Locke's father? But when the nurse asked Locke's grandmother if he was Locke's father, she said no. Doesn't that leave open the possibility that he is either Locke's father or that somehow he just knew of Locke's birth and came to investigate this special child who was destined to come to the island? I'm confused :( <BR/>I agree, Dr. Levinson, with your take on Claire. She must have been injured in the bombing and died that night in the jungle. And Miles probably knows and just isn't telling Sawyer since Sawyer has been so surly with him. <BR/>Great episode! I can't wait until next week!Jessica Knapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13134277281082757857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-10323678499819540622008-05-09T17:09:00.000-04:002008-05-09T17:09:00.000-04:00Thanks for the links, Dawn.Actually (and to TVindy...Thanks for the links, Dawn.<BR/><BR/>Actually (and to TVindy), I don't think Claire was killed in the attack - if she had been, then that means Sawyer can also interact with ghosts.<BR/><BR/>I think (as I mentioned last week) that Claire was seriously wounded. Only Miles realized she was on the point of death. She died in the jungle, after placing Aaron on the tree stump (or whatever it was).<BR/><BR/>As for lots of the islanders being dead - that's the old purgatory theory, which I think the show has already disproved (unless the Oceanic Six are in some kind of purgatory, too, which makes no sense).Paul Levinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07609987407926836519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-44214132817622626602008-05-09T16:07:00.000-04:002008-05-09T16:07:00.000-04:00I think it has to be tied in because of the fact t...I think it has to be tied in because of the fact that claire is his half sister and christen his father. This show can drive a person crazy. I wonder if they will ever answer all the questions. I don't know if they are all dead , it's a ggod theory except that there is the oceanic 6 in the real world and the pilot went on this mission because he knew the body in the plane was not the real pilot.dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10741158153974994260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-76485819355308359432008-05-09T14:43:00.000-04:002008-05-09T14:43:00.000-04:00Dawn,That was a very interesting article. I was in...Dawn,<BR/><BR/>That was a very interesting article. I was intrigued by the idea that Claire had actually been dead since the attack on the cabin, and it was her ghost that was taking care of Aaron until she was called away. If dead people can become so convincingly substantial, then maybe there really were no survivors, and the plane really did end up on the bottom of the ocean. Those that made it off the island are actually super ghosts?<BR/><BR/>I wonder if Locke's pre-island life was so pathetic, because he was denying his destiny. That would certainly explain why he was so utterly transformed as soon as he hit the island. I wonder how Jack fits in. Is his destiny somehow intertwined with Ben's and Locke's?tvindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09944046580562714104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-26825619402666215892008-05-09T14:27:00.000-04:002008-05-09T14:27:00.000-04:00As requested by Paul, here is the article from whi...As requested by Paul, here is the article from which the paragraph came. It is on Entertainment weekly .com. From what I understand the author Jeff Jensen was a hugh twin peaks fan(me too)<BR/>enjoy<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20198844,00.htmldawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10741158153974994260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-14160523564756999382008-05-09T12:03:00.000-04:002008-05-09T12:03:00.000-04:00Here is another theory I find really credible and ...Here is another theory I find really credible and could explain alot, enjoy<BR/><BR/>Now, do the timeline math. <BR/><BR/>Locke is born early. At age 5, he takes a test that most likely would have taken him to the Island if he had passed. He didn't. That same year, Benjamin Linus is born. At age 16, Locke is invited to go to a science camp that again would have taken him to the Island. He refused. About that same time, Benjamin Linus and his father joined the Dharma Initiative. The implication, it seems, is that Ben has been walking the path that was originally meant for Locke. Ben was the contingency plan — the course correction — for Locke's altered destiny. But Ben is his own person, of course, and he has done things differently from what Locke would have done, and this, in turn, has created further changes in the original order of things — changes that I think a certain ticked-off, Island-deprived billionaire named Charles Widmore is trying to reverse. The scene at the rehab center between paralyzed adult Locke and his wheelchair pusher, the creepy Matthew Abbaddon — who accepted the description of ''orderly'' with knowing irony — was meant to suggest one way Widmore is scheming to restore the original order: by getting Locke on that Island and taking back the birthright that was supposed to be his.dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10741158153974994260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-4367414134809752732008-05-09T09:55:00.000-04:002008-05-09T09:55:00.000-04:00okay Paul, what if Horace was time jumping, his no...okay Paul, what if Horace was time jumping, his nose was bleeding. Also when lockes teacher told him about the science camp he said he wasn't about science, very telling because he told Jack awhile ago Iyou are a man of science and I am a man of faith. My last theory what if Alpert is Jacob. If christen is actually a shepard leading his flock, all the names now make sense. Okay i'll stop for awhile . We still don't know who was in the coffin any guesses?dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10741158153974994260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-12016310117711203982008-05-09T09:31:00.000-04:002008-05-09T09:31:00.000-04:00Here is a link to a very interesting article on th...Here is a link to a very interesting article on theory's of lost<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20198515,00.htmldawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10741158153974994260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289595359432630118.post-10343202045676563012008-05-09T09:30:00.000-04:002008-05-09T09:30:00.000-04:00This was a fantastic show. So we now know that all...This was a fantastic show. So we now know that all the people on the island were preordained to be there. You forgot to mention the conversation between Locke and the wire guy. I think he will fit in more than we think. This whole alpert thing is freaky. I'll be back to chat more laterdawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10741158153974994260noreply@blogger.com