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Saturday, June 9, 2007

Lost New Questions: 7: Are the Flashforwards A Species of Desmond's Flashes?

I've been writing a lot about The Sopranos - with its finale just a day away - but Lost is never far from my mind...

Anyway ... my short answer to whether the flashforwards are really Desmond's flashes is: no.

And this is not because the producers have said that the flashforwards in the finale were something never seen before in Lost - as I indicted in my What Constitutes Reliable Evidence, I never put much stock in what producers say...

So ... to begin with, flashes and flashforwards are really two quite different things.

A flash - such as Desmond gets - is a vision of the future, from or in or by a person in the present. They may or may be 100% accurate and destined to come true, depending upon the predictive powers of the "flasher". In the case of Desmond, in fact, we can't be sure at this point exactly how accurate his flashes are, and whether what they reveal in the future can be changed between now and then.

I should also add that flashes or visions of the future are common in science fiction - such as Paul Muad'dib's visions in Dune.

In contrast, flashforwards are not. And they are not visions of the future, but actual depictions of the real future, which can't be changed (unless we also have time travel, which is a separate, fascinating issue). Flashforwards, in other words, are like flashbacks - both show real events, one in the future, the other in the past.

You could get metaphysically fancy and say that a flashforward is really a God's-eye vision of the future ... but that's just another way of saying the flashforward is not showing us any one character's vision, but the universe's vision - or, its future reality.

It will be fun, however, to see how Desmond's flashes play out in the new flashforwards of Lost...

Useful links:

Lost New Questions: 1. How Far in the Future? ... 2. Who's In the Coffin? ... 3. Who's Waiting for Kate? ... 4. Who Is Naomi's Boss? ... 5. Is Mikhail Immortal? ... 6. What Constitutes Reliable Evidence?

Lost Season 3 Finale ... Flashforwards

Lost: Keys to What's Really Going On


And see also Lost's Back Full Paradoxical Blast: Season 4 Episode 1

Dune DVD






The Plot to Save Socrates


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3 comments:

Unknown said...

More interesting questions, thanks Paul.

It would seem the flash forwards must be permiable. Desmond's flahes, wich are inherently flash forwards, can change, Charlie's deaths, the woman who fell from the sky being different than his original flash as well.

It seems that the flash forwards of Jack are one thread of the future which can change based on what actually happens. This view is also consistent with the woman from the clock shop. She tells us things can change, even if in the end it reaches a homeostasis, there are several routes to the end.

Paul Levinson said...

Welcome to Infinite Regress, roshan!

I think we disagree on this, though - the flashforwards, I would say, are not capable of being changed - any more than the flashbacks...

This is in contrast to Desmond's flashes...

Anonymous said...

Excellent post! I like the questions and I like your reasoning.

I, of course, have the answers but, like the rest of the powers that be (in THIS universe and timeline) will not divulge the answers in the interest of smurfing with the mind of the watchers. LOL!

Again, good post. In the words of Ahnold... "Ah'll be bahk."

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